Saturday, November 26, 2011

Types of Photoshoots

  Model: Andree de Villers. Photographer: Doug Winsor. Circa: 2007.

Once you have decided what type of modeling you want to do, you need to know what the different types of shoots mean.  When you are just getting started and looking to build your portfolio, typically you will pay for shoots, then you start doing some trade for shoots, then you build yourself up to the point where you start charging for shoots.  The exception to this general rule is working with a GWC!!

Model Pays for Shoot - There are several things to consider when you are looking to purchase photos to begin your portfolio.  Ensure that you do your research, make sure that you are looking at the photographer's work and choosing someone whose work really inspires you.  We would definitely recommend getting full make up and hair on your first shoot as well.  If you can swing it, get a model coach there too!  If you are going to pay to have photos done, you want to make sure you are getting the most bang for your buck, and that this one set will get your phone ringing with TF bookings!!

Trade For (TF/TFP/TFCD) - This is something that you will start doing early in your career and keep it going likely for the rest of your career!  Anytime that you can get an opportunity to work with an incredible photographer that will absolutely add to your portfolio, you definitely want to try to get a TF deal on the go!! There are two main types of agreements, Trade for Prints (TFP) and Trade for CD (TFCD). TFP is when there is no cash exchanged for the shoot between the model and photographer, but the photographer provides the model with a set number of prints in exchange for their work.  TFCD, the most common nowadays, is when there is no cash exchanged for the shoot between the model and photographer, but the photographer provides the model with a CD, usually with a set number of edited images, in exchange for their work. Remember it is up to the photographer's discretion whether or not they wish to include high resolution photos, so make sure you ask those questions ahead of time.

GWC (Guy With Camera) - If you look a a photographer's portfolio of work and it is not excellent and the photographer is offering you money although you aren't experienced, you've probably run into a GWC. Two things to note with GWC's, they can often be unprofessional so be careful and get references.  If you are not able to bring an escort with you, then ensure that people know where you are and set a time to call and check in.  The second thing is to see it for what it is, yes you will get paid and probably well, but you are going to have terrible images of yourself out there, so read the model release carefully. Ultimately remember, if it is not going to help your portfolio then ensure you are getting paid.

Nude/Implied/Fashion Hourly Rates - It is tough to say what your rate should be, as it all depends on your experience, skill and what local competition is charging.  Generally speaking however, $8-25 an hour for art figure modeling, $25-50 an hour for a clothed shoot and $50-100 an hour for a nude shoot.  Please keep in mind this is once you have a portfolio under your belt.  In the same way that you would never pay a photographer to shoot without seeing inspiring work from them, you should not be expected to get paid just because you are taking your clothes off.

Commission on Revenue - This will be worked out on on a case by case basis between the photographer and the model. Ensure that you are protected in the contract and remember that you may end up doing this project for free if it does not generate any revenue!

Ultimately, the best thing to do when deciding what rates you are going to charge is look up what the competition is charging.  Ensure you are being realistic, nude modeling is not just about standing naked in front of a camera, it takes skill and experience.  If you are not yet experienced, understand that you need to gain those skills before expecting a pay cheque.

Please keep in mind that it is a new world out there with internet modeling.  It's important as a model to be able to spot the 'BS' right away.  There are many photographers that will agree to a TF agreement and never deliver on photos, there are photographers that will sell your image without your permission and there are photographers who turn out to not be photographers at all.  You have a gut feeling for a reason.  In this business, you need to learn to follow it.

xoxo
Andree & Sarah

12 comments:

  1. I have a question for you ladies! I have my first photo shoot happening next week. What can I do to prepare myself ahead of time so that I don't look like I am clueless at the shoot?

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  2. That's a great question!! We will do a blog on some initial preparation and posing tips before your first big shoot!!!

    xoxo
    Andree & Sarah

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  3. I would say that the rates you have posted are pretty high, and generally because of competition models get half those rates.

    Going rate in Toronto for artist figure work - 20/hr, clothed - $15-25/hr, and $50-75 an hour for any type of implied/topless/nude work that doesn't involve more erotic and porny type angles. And that allll depends on what a photographer thinks you as a model are worth - i wish any model luck making a living charging 125/hr for nudes, without substantial experience as a travelling model, not just in one area.

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  4. Thanks for your feedback! We hear where you are coming from and should again clarify that those are rates that you would want to work towards and should be receiving once you have gained the applicable experience!

    Thank you for your contribution!! We really appreciate it :D

    xoxo
    Andree & Sarah

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  5. We would love to hear average rates from photographers and models in other areas as well! Perhaps we can collect enough to do a blog containing current average rates by region based on experience level!!

    Any photographers that work with nude models, especially beginners, we welcome your questions, comments and contributions!!!

    xoxo
    Andree & Sarah

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  6. I have 7 years modeling experience - and in the Toronto market, even with plenty of experience and a great reputation behind me, at most I recieve 75/hr for nudes, and at this rate photographers like to book for only one hour. Usually it's 50 or 60/hr for nudes.

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  7. So I guess I would be classified as a (GWC) :-)
    I do primary concert photography and have been very interested in trying my hand at photographing clothed and unclothed models. As I'm just starting down this new road how do I position myself so I don't get pidginholed as a dirtbag. I'd be looking for models that are just starting out and doing TFCD.. but I would want to be known as someone with integrity and trust worthy. I'm learning as much as I can about posing, lighting, etc but without actually trying what I'm learning I can't grow and be able to shoot things that add to a models portfolio.

    Maybe you could do some posts for photographers like me

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  8. Thanks so much for your feedback!! It's great to hear from models and it's really valuable information for others!! Thank you!

    xoxo
    Andree & Sarah

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  9. Hello Anonymous photographer just starting out!! Those are some fantastic suggestions and we completely agree!! We will definitely write a blog about that and answer those questions for you!!! We really appreciate your contribution!!

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  10. We have finished a blog hopefully answering your questions!! Enjoy!!

    http://novicenudes.blogspot.com/2011/12/gwc-vs-budding-photographer.html

    xoxo
    Andree & Sarah

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  11. Please consider adding:
    "Don't wear tight clothing to a nude shoot."
    "Bring a robe."
    "Take that damn hair tie thingy off your wrist."

    along with personal grooming tips including pubic shaving, trimming, waxing, tampons, etc. There is nothing worse than major razor rash for a nude shoot.

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  12. Excellent photos, incredible technic!

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